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Stelco Plant
Walkabout:
Swansea Community Comments and Input
September 6, 2000
Report prepared by:
TeleCommons Development Group
www.telecommons.com
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This document has been prepared by the TeleCommons
Development Group based on viewpoints and opin tans shared during the Walkabout. It is
intended to reflect the views of the Swansea Community members who participated in the
walkabout.
Participants:
Swansea:
David Miller (Councillor). Victoria Masnyk (SARA), Jamie Bell (Town Hall),
SoMeiQuan (City Planning), Norm McLeod (Swansea Historical Society), Ron Braun (SARA),
John Leeson (world19), Don Jennison, (Long-time resident,)
TeleCommons Development Group:
Don Richardson, Helen Aitkin, Heidi Clark
Why a Walkabout?
Plans are in the works for the development of the old Stelco Plant in the south
end of the Village of Swansea. REON, the company that is proposing to purchase and develop
the site, wants community input, and has engaged the TeleCommons Development Group to
facilitate communication with the Swansea Community.
The Walkabout
The group congregated on the comer of Ellis and the Queensway at noon, toured the
perirneter of the plant as they informally discussed focus issues, opportunities for
improvements. commnriity characteristics, as well as the historical background of the
community. Norm McLeod and Don Richardson took photos to record some of the focus areas.
Helen Aiticin and Heidi Clark took notes.
The following is a synopsis of many of the
comments and images recorded during file walkabout.
The Ellis-Queensway Corner
The north-east corner of Stelco property is fenced in,
contains many trees, and a small creek covered by a small pedestrian bridge. The creek
emerges from nowhere and disappears again underground. This corner was once the site of
the West Toronto Junction Pumping Station, which pumped water from Ellis to Runnymede. The
stone from over the doorway is now in the City Archives.
There was a general feeling that this corner should be
preserved and enhanced as a "natural" landscape. Although it is on a very busy
traffic route. it is kitty-corner from Grenadier Pond, a naturalized landscape in the
heart of Toronto. On the south-east corner of the intersection, directly south of
Grenadier Pond, there are plans for a wetlands area for storm-water control.
Traffic is a problem at this corner, and where Ellis
passes under the railway bridge and the Gardiner Expressway. The underpass is very narrow,
dangerous, dirty and noisy. Despite significant efforts to lobby the CNR to improve the
situation, there has been no response.
Pictures taken from this corner: (Click on image to
load larger picture).
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| Looking west on Queensway. Grenadier Pond is in
upper left. Taken from west end of Stelco property. (40K) |
Ellis-Queensway corner of Stelco
property discussed on this page. (74K) |
Suggestions:
- Enhance this corner as a natural area, as opposed to an
"activity centre". Given that this corner is the entrance to the community
heading west from City-Centre, it would be wonderfial to treat this as a transition area,
utilizing trees, landscape and water to create a tree-lined corridor leading into Swansea.
- Preserve and enhance the creek. Can it be
"daylighted" (more exposed)? Can it be incorporated into a natural fountain?
- Preserve the large, significant trees.
- Coordinate the design of the Stelco property corner with
the proposed wetlands stormwater development across Ellis.
- Bring the CNR to the table in the Stelco site planning.
Questions:
When did Stelco acquire this comer property?
West along the Queensway
Beyond the green-space we came to the building that was
once the plant office, located on the SE comer of the Windermere-Queensway intersection.
This building had burned down in 1906* and rebuilt from scratch. It is significant
historically, but also for the two by ten wooden beams on the ceiling. The building is
currently boarded up and in bad disrepair.
*[note added by world19: at the subsequent
"Stelco" development, Norm McLeod corrected this. This building did not burn in
1906, but was instead one of the original buildings dating from the 1890's]
Click on images below for larger image.
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| The Stelco office building on Windermere,
between The Queensway & railway tracks/Gardiner Expressway. Palace Pier towers in
background. (40K) |
The Windermere "portal". CN bridge
& narrow passage to the lakeshore. (42K) |
Windermere Avenue passes under another Railway bridge and
the Expressway. Windermere is a high traffic corridor, and, as on Ellis, the underpass is
very narrow and dangerous. South of the underpass the City is planning to build a 5-storey
42 unit building for low-income singles housing. The community is opposed to this plan*,
given the building's location right next to the Expressway, its isolation from services,
and the lack of thought that has gone into the plan.
* [note added by world19: We disagree with this
statement. We believe this is a very presumptive and incorrect statement. No
matter how many oppose this plan, many others are supportive.]
Southport St. runs south to the Queensway and could be a
good transition flow-way to the lakeshore. The Queensway street-car raiIs are currently an
obstruction, The South Kingsway provides no pedestrian passage to the lakeshore.

Corner of Queensway & Southport, looking south to Stelco
site & old factory. (38K)
Properties on the north side of the Queensway enjoy a lake
view. The group was very eager to see visual plans for the site, and they were clear that
they wanted the development to fit aesthetically and conceptually with how they view their
community. They also wanted to preserve the view as much as possible, and to maintain and
enhance property values.
One group member provided a photo of the site taken before
the Stelco plant was built. At that time there were two ponds at the western end of the
location. The participant suggested that this be taken into account in planning the
development.
Suggestions
- Preserve the old Stelco office and use for some community
function (e.g. daycare, recreation). There is a strong sense of history in the community,
and one thought was that the facility could include an Archive Room. At the very least, do
not destroy the wooden beams.
- Improve passage south on Windermere to provide access to
the lakeshore - e.g. widen, put up barriers or walls.
- Purchase the property south of the Expressway where the
low-income housing is planned to allow for additional passage to the lakeshore.
- Improve the Windermere intersection. (How?). The idea of a
"Windermere Square" was discussed.
- Extend Southport as a transition flow-way to the
lake-shore.
- Install a "Welcome to Swansea" sign on the
Expressway overpass.
- Install a pedestrian path under the South Kingsway bridge
to provide access to lake.
Concerns
- Tower structure will obscure view of lake and lower
property value. Community members do not know [what] is being planned by REON.
- Stelco plant is buflt on two ponds environmental
consideration.
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Debrief and Followup Session
Don Richardson pointed out that the developers
were prepared to work with the community and provide resources for certain enhancements,
that might relate to trees, landscaping, traffic ameliorations, for example. There was
consensus that people wanted to see some tentative drawings, with explanations.
Key Focus Areas:
- extend street grid
- Ellis Stream
- preserve office
- Southport extension
- access to waterfront
- options of tall towers vs alternative on SW corner
- Windermere-Ellis intersection
Coordination
- Some structure will be put in place to oversee:
- Traffic
- Lake access
- Landscape
- Historical aspects
- Site plan
- social/recreational
- David Miller will look after overall coordination
- Communication processes will be activated including Web,
telephone, etc.
Next Meeting September 21, 4 pm
Town Hall
Agenda:
- Committees
- Look at drawings
- How to move forward
Additional stakeholders should be invited to attend (incl.
Railroad, Conservation Authority, Metro Roads,City Planners, etc.)
Public Meeting to be held later after resources are
available
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