Meeting of REON and Swansea Community
Stakeholders
Swansea Town Hall
Sept. 21, 2000
4 pm 6 pm
Chair: Councillor David Miller, Brian
Brooks, City of Toronto Planning
Attendance: 21 people
Barry Brooks presented background on City of
Torontos Official Plan
Highlights:
Stelco designated mixed industrial and residential
Note that in the Swansea Sub-plan the site is designated
Industrial
Section 9 specifies:
- Density allowance 2 times site area residential, 1 times
commercial. Total 3 times site area
- Street-related services
- Greenspace and parkspace
- Historical preservation if significant
- Height limit now 18 metres, based on City rezoning, which
incorporated an appeal by SARA of the suggested limit of 23 metres
The Stelco location is seen to be a highly visible site -
gateway to the City of Toronto, and extension of Swansea and of High Park.
Considerations re the site development - parking, traffic,
environment, railroad, community services, noise, recognition of community values.
Harry Pellow (REON) showed an aerial photo of the current
site along with a drawing of the concept of the development. Harry Pellow and John Davies
(REON) presented some of the highlights:
- Traffic flow, enhancement of the two access portals to the
Lakeshore
- Need to improve width of portals, make more suitable to
pedestrian and bike traffic
- Trees and vegetation will be planted to cover the railway and
mask noise
- Windermere portal now hemmed in by the walls of the plant.
When the plant is removed the portal access will be broadened, well-lighted and landscaped
- Access to the development will be 3 5 portals
- No "wall of buildings"
- Combination of single-family detached, townhouses and
apartments. Stacked townhouses at the front at soft edge. Pedestrian-friendly site
- Commercial operations (e.g. medical, other services) on east
- Higher density on west side, including towers
anticipated 2 3 buildings
- Disruption of lake view will be minimized by placing them at
south of site, leaving a space between N Queensway dwellings and the towers equivalent to
2 2 ½ football fields. This will also minimize shadows. Careful placement of
towers will largely preserve vistas and provide view corridors. Note that footprint of the
towers is just 12 13% of site.
- about 800 units - will include some senior housing
- Ground cover will be both hard and soft
- Parking underground
- Traffic studies will be done consultant just engaged
- Park on the Ellis corner, with the portal connecting it to the
lake. Will take into consideration the nature of Grenadier Pond and the City property to
its south. Note that Gartner Lee, the firm that did the Grenadier Pond reclamation, is a
consultant to the project
- Ferris Quinn, the firm that worked on the Humber River
reclamation, has been engaged as Landscape Architect
- Concept of "neighbourhood development" not a
gated community. Pedestrian access through site, with lots of green and open area.
"Soft-edged community"
A resident stated that he had called GO and they stated
that GO was designed for longer distance between stops. David Miller stated that he had
also talked to GO, and that GO has been considering building a station in the west end.
Further contact will be made with GO.
David had to leave, and asked Brian Brooks chair the
remainder of the meeting.
Question and Answer Period
Question: How high will the towers be?
Answer: 15 25 stories
Question: What about additional public parking in the site?
Answer: None. No visible parking. 1.25 units per residence plus about 10% visitor space.
Question: What uses planned for the space at ground level of
the towers?
Answer: Meeting spaces, lobbies, amenities, day care. Possible public access. Also,
outdoor recreation areas.
Comment: Concern that the Ellis corner is now a hangout for
patrons of the Meow Club and that this could continue if the corner is turned into a park.
Response: The Ellis Park would be designed as a public space, family-friendly, with
lighting and would try to discourage unauthorized night-time use.
Question: How many stories for the low-rises?
Answer: Three stories on west side, five on east.
Question: Why not reverse?
Answer: Will consider.
Comment: School is already 130 students over-capacity, with
eight portables.
Brooks response: Board of Education could oppose the development on that basis. Important
to address this and keep the communication open.
Question: Anticipated completion date?
Answer: Phase I should begin in 2002. Completion in another three to five years.
Next Steps
Jamie Bell suggested meeting in a couple of weeks to look at
detailed visuals. Request several different models for consideration. After the next
meeting smaller focus groups to consider different specific areas would probably be
appropriate. Then, two four weeks after that a public meeting would be in order.
Next meeting October 11, 7:30 9:00 pm.
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